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Well, Step One (buying the brew kit) was easy enough...
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Garrison Hilliard
2005-12-21 16:43:14 UTC
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Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
kit at:

http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1

Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
2005-12-21 18:46:07 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
True Brew makes good equipment kits, IMO. You may want to add on to that
after you have been brewing for awhile, but it should be enough to get
you started and enjoying the hobby.


John.
Bill Becker
2005-12-21 22:22:25 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
I can't answer your question but I was thinking of trying it out(again)
myself.
Here's what I've been looking at:

http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_BREWERY_WITH_INGREDIENTS_C73.cfm
Garrison Hilliard
2005-12-21 23:32:41 UTC
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Post by Bill Becker
Post by Garrison Hilliard
Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
I can't answer your question but I was thinking of trying it out(again)
myself.
http://www.williamsbrewing.com/HOME_BREWERY_WITH_INGREDIENTS_C73.cfm
Well, Bill, I have the "William's Brewing Winter 2005" catalogue and, though it
looks like good equipment, it's pricier (more expensive) and a tad more
complicated than the True Brew Maestro kit. However, I see now that I could've
gotten the TBM kit for $39.99 (sans ingredients) at

http://brewbyu.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=hd1&Product_Code=K1&Category_Code=VESSELS
Rick Knight
2005-12-22 17:33:19 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Well, Bill, I have the "William's Brewing Winter 2005" catalogue and,
though it looks like good equipment, it's pricier (more expensive) and a
tad more complicated than the True Brew Maestro kit. However, I see now
that I could've gotten the TBM kit for $39.99 (sans ingredients) at
http://brewbyu.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=hd1&Product_Code=K1&Category_Code=VESSELS
Forgot to mention, I got my kit on eBay for about $25.00. That included
one case of bottles.

Rick Knight
Mike E.
2005-12-22 00:27:03 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
I've been brewing for almost 10 years. That looks like a pretty good
starter to me. If you continue in the hobby, you'll want to upgrade to glass
fermenters, but for a start this is pretty good. I use the following company
almost exclusively for all of my homebrewing kits and equipment. Have fun
and enjoy the beer!
http://northernbrewer.com/
Mike
Mark R
2005-12-22 15:50:42 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or
not I should take the homebrew plunge I finally ordered up the Porter
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know if the
kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
Looks good to start. Didn't see anything about bottle caps. I'm guessing
you'll bottle to begin with? If it comes in without the caps you can order
some while it's fermenting.

Mark R
Rick Knight
2005-12-22 17:29:36 UTC
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Okee-dokee, after literally years of trepidation over whether or not I
http://www.beer-wine.com/category_page.asp?categoryID=1&sectionID=1
Now, I've lurked on this newsgroup for a while and have nearly memorized
http://www.howtobrew.com/ - but can some of you old hands let me know
if the kit I ordered looks like a good starter one?
That's the same kit I started with, except mine included one case of
bottles but no ingredients. For my first batch, I used the "Basic Brewing:
The First Batch" recipe from the included booklet, "The True Brew
Handbook". The beer made from that recipe was pretty good, but the
instructions were a bit thin. One problem I had was not checking the
temperature and gravity of the wort before pitching the yeast. The booklet
makes no mention of doing so. Fermentation didn't start, so I came here
and asked this group what might have gone wrong, and how I might salvage
that first batch. Someone suggested that the temperature was too high when
I pitched the yeast, and that I might salvage the batch by re-pitching.
That worked, and I learned a couple of good lessons. I've also added a lot
of additional equipment, more bottles, bottle tree, additional
fermenting/bottling bucket, an assortment of brew pots and of course, a
good thermometer.

Good luck with your first batch.

Rick Knight
Garrison Hilliard
2006-01-02 06:40:36 UTC
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Post by Rick Knight
Fermentation didn't start, so I came here
and asked this group what might have gone wrong, and how I might salvage
that first batch. Someone suggested that the temperature was too high when
I pitched the yeast, and that I might salvage the batch by re-pitching.
I think I just did the same thing with my first batch! :-(
Garrison Hilliard
2006-01-02 08:10:09 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Post by Rick Knight
Fermentation didn't start, so I came here
and asked this group what might have gone wrong, and how I might salvage
that first batch. Someone suggested that the temperature was too high when
I pitched the yeast, and that I might salvage the batch by re-pitching.
I think I just did the same thing with my first batch! :-(
Never mind! It's bubbling... it's alive! ALIVE!
The Reverend
2006-01-02 21:53:23 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Post by Garrison Hilliard
Post by Rick Knight
Fermentation didn't start, so I came here
and asked this group what might have gone wrong, and how I might salvage
that first batch. Someone suggested that the temperature was too high when
I pitched the yeast, and that I might salvage the batch by re-pitching.
I think I just did the same thing with my first batch! :-(
Never mind! It's bubbling... it's alive! ALIVE!
Ain't it beautiful. All those little critters swimmin' around in there just
for the sole purpose of making you a couple of cases of beer? Its like
having billions of tiny little trained pets. Don't bother trying to name 'em
all, though.
--
The Honorable Reverend
Fosco Gamgee Whitfurrows
and his 6" Boner
speaking on behalf of his
Traveling Entourage of Rock Hard Religious Loonies
g***@efn.org
2006-01-02 23:36:34 UTC
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Post by The Reverend
Post by Garrison Hilliard
Never mind! It's bubbling... it's alive! ALIVE!
Ain't it beautiful. All those little critters swimmin' around in there just
for the sole purpose of making you a couple of cases of beer? Its like
having billions of tiny little trained pets. Don't bother trying to name 'em
all, though.
Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?



"This helpful little fungus feasts on the fermentable sugars of malted
barley, producing alcohol and carbon dioxide."

- The True Brew Handbook
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
2006-01-03 05:37:31 UTC
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Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?
Maybe. Check the specific gravity, it will tell you a lot more information
than just looking at the airlock will. The rate of fermentation depends
on a few things, one of which is temperature. If you ferment warm enough,
you can go through the main fermentation activity pretty quickly.


John.
Denny Conn
2006-01-03 17:08:55 UTC
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Post by g***@efn.org
Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?
If you happen to be fermenting at a high temp, it can go very quickly.
What temp is your beer at?

---------->Denny

--
Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
Garrison Hilliard
2006-01-04 00:32:38 UTC
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Post by g***@efn.org
Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?
If you happen to be fermenting at a high temp, it can go very quickly.
What temp is your beer at?
Well, I first pitched the yeast in when the wort was pretty hot (around 95F),
and have just let it sit around in my study at 70F since then.
John 'Shaggy' Kolesar
2006-01-04 01:26:45 UTC
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Post by Denny Conn
Post by g***@efn.org
Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?
If you happen to be fermenting at a high temp, it can go very quickly.
What temp is your beer at?
Well, I first pitched the yeast in when the wort was pretty hot (around 95F),
and have just let it sit around in my study at 70F since then.
IMO, that's way too warm. Yes, it will result in a much faster fermentation,
but it also results in a lot of off flavors from the yeast. If you pitched
at 95F and then sat it in a room temp of 70F, it probably took a while for
the temp to drop. Most of the fermentation probably occured while it was
in the 80s. IMO, you want to ferment at a max of 70F. IE, get it down
that low before you pitch your yeast, and then keep it in the upper 60s.

The only style of beer you see fermented in the 80s are Belgians, which tend
to be known for all sorts of funky flavors. I know that temp control is
difficult, especially for beginners, but it *really* makes a big difference
in the beer.


John.
Denny Conn
2006-01-04 17:22:11 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Well, I first pitched the yeast in when the wort was pretty hot (around 95F),
and have just let it sit around in my study at 70F since then.
Well, IMO, both of those temps are too high to make good beer. You'd
have much better luck if you get the temp under 70 before pitching, and
keep it there during fermentation.

------------>Denny
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Life begins at 60...1.060, that is.
g***@efn.org
2006-01-03 00:07:46 UTC
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Post by Garrison Hilliard
Never mind! It's bubbling... it's alive! ALIVE!
Ain't it beautiful. All those little critters swimmin' around in there just
for the sole purpose of making you a couple of cases of beer? Its like
having billions of tiny little trained pets. Don't bother trying to name 'em
all, though.
Was the bubbling supposed to stop after just twelve hours, though?
Shouldn't that air lock be bubbling still (especially considering the
amount of fermentables I added to the mix)?



"This helpful little fungus feasts on the fermentable sugars of malted
barley, producing alcohol and carbon dioxide."

- The True Brew Handbook
Garrison Hilliard
2013-09-13 14:54:25 UTC
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